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#10152176 Scam report against | Lavid 762411 | 8USD

Posted by Jokerart on 02 February 2018 - 02:58 PM in Solved


#9889144 Scam report against Teken 0.03087 BTC | UID = 45124 | %Amount%

Posted by Jokerart on 16 January 2018 - 02:08 PM in Solved

Just got back from a vacation so please bear with my late response.


To sum up the timeline of events.


25 Nov : I requested a refund to my btc address ( 33ps )


28 Nov : Teken requested my btc address to send the refund which i provided ( 1BV ) since i could no longer access my btc account under 33ps


6 Dec : After numerous prompts Teken finally sent the refund. However he got the wrong address.



I believe what's done is done and I'm cool with teken as long as he make things right with me.

May i know why you can not access that wallet as you had access to that wallet since 2016?

#9877415 How long does aqua/nova last?

Posted by Jokerart on 15 January 2018 - 06:02 PM in Answered


#9876765 Presentation | AxeNato

Posted by Jokerart on 15 January 2018 - 05:13 PM in Introductions

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#9868569 Scam report against Teken 0.03087 BTC | UID = 45124 | %Amount%

Posted by Jokerart on 15 January 2018 - 12:44 AM in Solved

You're just making an assumption now, nothing more than that.

Theres no assumption, there is an actual transactions linking both addresses.

#9868535 Scam report against Teken 0.03087 BTC | UID = 45124 | %Amount%

Posted by Jokerart on 15 January 2018 - 12:42 AM in Solved

Looking at what Cem said,There is a transactionwhich connects both addresses leading back to 2016. Which makes me assume this address might be the user's address on a website (can still be a personal wallet). Which means that in the end he should be able to withdraw the btc from and that both addresses most likely belong to the same user.


Still looking for the OP's reply.

#9867665 Scam report against Teken 0.03087 BTC | UID = 45124 | %Amount%

Posted by Jokerart on 14 January 2018 - 11:42 PM in Solved

Don't think there's any way to prove it so should't we just act like it isn't his?

And thats why Teken is not unbanned, But seeing that the address has 1,000 other than the funds in this deal should show that it belongs to someone and is not a temporary address. 

#9867610 Scam report against Teken 0.03087 BTC | UID = 45124 | %Amount%

Posted by Jokerart on 14 January 2018 - 11:39 PM in Solved

Here's my opinion JA.


Either way there was misunderstanding and miscommunication involved in this.


1. Teken should have confirmed the BTC address before sending the money > I personally always confirm the address before sending larger amounts


Teken could have recovered the loss by refunding it with his own personal money, even if it wasn't 100% his fault. It would have been a good sport from Teken's side, IF he had done that. It doesn't seem like he's going to recover it either way, but yeah. 

Not worth ruining the reputation you have, for $400 or even a higher amount. 


And no, Teken is not a scammer. The term "scamming" shouldn't be used in this situation.


Seeing it from OP's side, I understand his situation and feel sorry for the loss. PM me if I can help you in any way.

I do understand your point, all im saying is, the address belongs to OP and does not look like a disposable one. So in the end he received the money

#9867268 Scam report against Teken 0.03087 BTC | UID = 45124 | %Amount%

Posted by Jokerart on 14 January 2018 - 11:16 PM in Solved

Why are you even asking what does community have to say about this? Sounds like you know more than it has been said and now you're looking for us to comment and defend Teken so you can close a scam report in his favor.


On topic, what was the time difference between OP sending first and second address? Is it possible that his address changed and despite Teken sending BTC to first address, OP didn't receive the money?


I'm taking the community's opinion as i do not think it is a scam while another staff member does, so i'm looking for more opinions.

#9867240 Scam report against Teken 0.03087 BTC | UID = 45124 | %Amount%

Posted by Jokerart on 14 January 2018 - 11:15 PM in Solved

Teken's duty was to ensure a secure transaction, sending the money to one of the users addresses makes sense, nonetheless, it could have been a different wallet and the address could have been lost, meaning Teken's duty was to complete the refund to the address he was provided lastly, not to the one he deemed right. With this I mean, every transaction I've MM'd so far, I've confirmed 10 times before sending the money to a specific address. I know for a fact some people use disposable addresses for some transactions, and even some of them might make one user send the money to triangulate a transaction (meaning Teken would be sending the money to a third party involved in another trade). It was not Teken's choice which address to send it to, whether he sent it to one the user provided before or not. His job was to secure the transaction and therefore he had to make sure both parties ended up with the money/goods safely. The user that received the money on another address provided a new one, and it wasn't taken into consideration. If I, as a middleman, don't check the transaction thoroughly and make sure I'm doing things right, I am to blame for anything that happens mid-transaction, whether it's a refund to an incorrect address (the user in question is entitled to change his address whenever he wants to, as addresses are changed by almost everybody to ensure their privacy remains private).

If this situation were to be applied to real life, if I had given an address to ship a product and then changed it before it was shipped to a new one, and the product was still sent to the previous address without considering the change I made, it would not be my bad, it would be the companies for not being thorough and not doing their job correctly. 




So if it's not Teken's fault, whose fault is it? not because I don't think finndev or Jokerart or any other member of the team will pay back that poor guy who just lost $400. 
So either you learn to read, to double check things or you don't do anything or you play with the botnet etc.




Looking at the first address, it has 174 tx done on it and 1,000 usd on it which means that it is not a disposable address nor one which belongs to 1 time product/service.

#9866904 Scam report against Teken 0.03087 BTC | UID = 45124 | %Amount%

Posted by Jokerart on 14 January 2018 - 10:54 PM in Solved

Looking into the private messages,


OP provided 2 addresses 


1. 33psATjj4XrMT81ucJnLSJY9MfwVZMZ5ks

2. 1BVJbH8QYLxT4fuGXPyKKB5zzoQ7LgDhbd


Teken did send the OP's money to the first address (here), I know the OP provided a second address but i do not think this is a scam as his funds were received to one of the addresses he provide. Yes Teken did a mistake by not sending it to the second one but the other address is still belongs to the OP.

What is the community's opinion on this?


Posted by Jokerart on 11 January 2018 - 09:53 PM in Products


#9812933 Scam report against | /user/526187-silas/ | $195

Posted by Jokerart on 11 January 2018 - 01:33 PM in Solved

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#9748128 Scam report against | ritik8288 | 103$

Posted by Jokerart on 06 January 2018 - 07:15 PM in Solved


You have 24h to refund OP, otherwise your account will be closed.