Scam report against Teken 0.03087 BTC | UID = 45124 | %Amount%

[ContjeJr]

Looking into the private messages,

 

OP provided 2 addresses 

 

1. 33psATjj4XrMT81ucJnLSJY9MfwVZMZ5ks

2. 1BVJbH8QYLxT4fuGXPyKKB5zzoQ7LgDhbd

 

Teken did send the OP's money to the first address (here), I know the OP provided a second address but i do not think this is a scam as his funds were received to one of the addresses he provide. Yes Teken did a mistake by not sending it to the second one but the other address is still belongs to the OP.

What is the community's opinion on this?

 

Well exactly what you say..

Teken did sent it to the wrong address. But the address still belongs to OP.

As we see the first TX Link the money nicely went trough.

So Teken do not hold any money of OP.

But my big question is: Why OP sent 2 addresses?

[Jocker]

 

Why did you send 2 addresses on first place?

[ContjeJr]

Why did you send 2 addresses on first place?

Thats my question aswell..

What i think, maybe it's an nice trick from the OP?

He sent 1 address, and when Teken sent it he sent a new one.

And Teken says: I sent it already to the first one. And thats how the ball started rollin..

Isnt it? Why would OP otherwise send 2 different address?

[BobMarleeyy]

I think it's not Teken's fault because dude gave him 2 addresses that belong to him

[Lucas]

Teken's duty was to ensure a secure transaction, sending the money to one of the users addresses makes sense, nonetheless, it could have been a different wallet and the address could have been lost, meaning Teken's duty was to complete the refund to the address he was provided lastly, not to the one he deemed right. With this I mean, every transaction I've MM'd so far, I've confirmed 10 times before sending the money to a specific address. I know for a fact some people use disposable addresses for some transactions, and even some of them might make one user send the money to triangulate a transaction (meaning Teken would be sending the money to a third party involved in another trade). It was not Teken's choice which address to send it to, whether he sent it to one the user provided before or not. His job was to secure the transaction and therefore he had to make sure both parties ended up with the money/goods safely. The user that received the money on another address provided a new one, and it wasn't taken into consideration. If I, as a middleman, don't check the transaction thoroughly and make sure I'm doing things right, I am to blame for anything that happens mid-transaction, whether it's a refund to an incorrect address (the user in question is entitled to change his address whenever he wants to, as addresses are changed by almost everybody to ensure their privacy remains private).

If this situation were to be applied to real life, if I had given an address to ship a product and then changed it before it was shipped to a new one, and the product was still sent to the previous address without considering the change I made, it would not be my bad, it would be the companies for not being thorough and not doing their job correctly. 

[Soidus]

He has sent him 2 addresses and Teken sent the money to the first one. I know it was a mistake but he did never want to scam anyone. My opinion: He should stay on Nulled

[pRince0000]

Looking into the private messages,

 

OP provided 2 addresses 

 

1. 33psATjj4XrMT81ucJnLSJY9MfwVZMZ5ks

2. 1BVJbH8QYLxT4fuGXPyKKB5zzoQ7LgDhbd

 

Teken did send the OP's money to the first address (here), I know the OP provided a second address but i do not think this is a scam as his funds were received to one of the addresses he provide. Yes Teken did a mistake by not sending it to the second one but the other address is still belongs to the OP.

What is the community's opinion on this?

Why are you even asking what does community have to say about this? Sounds like you know more than it has been said and now you're looking for us to comment and defend Teken so you can close a scam report in his favor.

 

On topic, what was the time difference between OP sending first and second address? Is it possible that his address changed and despite Teken sending BTC to first address, OP didn't receive the money?

[Solidity]

So if it's not Teken's fault, whose fault is it? not because I don't think finndev or Jokerart or any other member of the Nulled.to team will pay back that poor guy who just lost $400. 

 

So either you learn to read, to double check things or you don't do anything or you play with the botnet etc.

 

TEKEN NEED TO REFUND THIS GUYS.

[Jokerart]

Teken's duty was to ensure a secure transaction, sending the money to one of the users addresses makes sense, nonetheless, it could have been a different wallet and the address could have been lost, meaning Teken's duty was to complete the refund to the address he was provided lastly, not to the one he deemed right. With this I mean, every transaction I've MM'd so far, I've confirmed 10 times before sending the money to a specific address. I know for a fact some people use disposable addresses for some transactions, and even some of them might make one user send the money to triangulate a transaction (meaning Teken would be sending the money to a third party involved in another trade). It was not Teken's choice which address to send it to, whether he sent it to one the user provided before or not. His job was to secure the transaction and therefore he had to make sure both parties ended up with the money/goods safely. The user that received the money on another address provided a new one, and it wasn't taken into consideration. If I, as a middleman, don't check the transaction thoroughly and make sure I'm doing things right, I am to blame for anything that happens mid-transaction, whether it's a refund to an incorrect address (the user in question is entitled to change his address whenever he wants to, as addresses are changed by almost everybody to ensure their privacy remains private).

If this situation were to be applied to real life, if I had given an address to ship a product and then changed it before it was shipped to a new one, and the product was still sent to the previous address without considering the change I made, it would not be my bad, it would be the companies for not being thorough and not doing their job correctly. 

 

 

 

So if it's not Teken's fault, whose fault is it? not because I don't think finndev or Jokerart or any other member of the Nulled.to team will pay back that poor guy who just lost $400. 

 

So either you learn to read, to double check things or you don't do anything or you play with the botnet etc.

 

TEKEN NEED TO REFUND THIS GUYS.

 

 

 

Looking at the first address, it has 174 tx done on it and 1,000 usd on it which means that it is not a disposable address nor one which belongs to 1 time product/service.

[Electrocute]

Why are you even asking what does community have to say about this? Sounds like you know more than it has been said and now you're looking for us to comment and defend Teken so you can close a scam report in his favor.

 

On topic, what was the time difference between OP sending first and second address? Is it possible that his address changed and despite Teken sending BTC to first address, OP didn't receive the moneyYou

You are right, the community dont have the right to judge about a scam report that´s the job from the staff,moderator and admins not from the community 

Edited by Electrocute, 14 January 2018 - 11:16 PM.