Scam report against | /user/2517548-amaze | 0.835449 ETH

[Dantheman1217]

Username: Amaze

Profile Link: https://www.nulled.t...r/2517548-amaze

Short Description Of Product/Service: Airline points transfer

Thread of sales: https://www.nulled.t...cked-for-cheap/

Screenshots of conversation (ibb.co / imgur.com) : (Screenshots of whole conversation, please remove any personal information or private messages, or send that to @Lucas instead): Will send to Lucas

Amount scammed: 0.835449 ETH
Proof of payment (IMPORTANT, PLEASE POST):
https://etherscan.io...9db7f6c1549fe20
https://etherscan.io...dc0001b5cde7624
https://etherscan.io...ad706bde8b55950
https://etherscan.io...1651155230e37f4
(4 payments)

Additional Information: (Anything you might find useful):
Purchased points from seller, they transferred the total amount while I was asleep. I checked in morning and the points were there all good, but I later noticed that my account was frozen/locked. I call support and they tell me blah blah blah suspicious activity please send in ID. Ok so I send in my ID, 2 weeks go by nothing happens, I call back and the lady is like let me pull up your account. She said ok very sus fresh account and transferred in many points, this is probably why they locked acc. She told me usually only takes 3 days for unlock but unfortunately she cant expedite because its up to fraud department to unlock. During this time, seller tells me its not his fault, this can happen sometimes send in ID and all will be fine. Well now its been almost 3-4 weeks, account is still locked and im pretty certain it won't get unlocked. Seller tells me that this is not his fault, points transfer is good and its my fault (somehow??). Before I purchased I specifically asked him if fresh account is ok and safe, he tells me yes. He now says if I want refund to specifically record a call with the rep saying that it is the points that caused account to get flagged. I recorded a clip and sent it and he said it was not sufficient. I cannot keep doing this because there is literally a 3 hour hold each time I call and i've called maybe 4-5 times now so I am literally wasting my time solving a problem that shouldn't have happened in the first place. During this time, I purchased a lesser amount of points on fresh account and it went through smoothly, no holds no nothing even similar acc details. So clearly the issue is nothing on my end, however seller is refusing to refund or give new acc with points. His argument is that he’s been scammed before, so I offered to let him keep the locked account with points so he knows I’m not able to use but he still declines this proposition. I will accept either a refund, or an account with the original amount of points purchased.

Crypto Address to receive refund on (if email address, pm @Lucas ): Would prefer points, but if needed ETH: 0x6638F06c12F9426B2cCeDAB8e7d6Bd56936b9bC6

Edited by Dantheman1217, 02 May 2023 - 03:44 AM.

[Lucas]

@Amaze reply within 12 hours. If his account was locked and it's not being unlocked, he has to be refunded. If you told him he could use a fresh account, and he did, it's not the buyers fault. 

[Amaze]

@Amaze reply within 12 hours. If his account was locked and it's not being unlocked, he has to be refunded. If you told him he could use a fresh account, and he did, it's not the buyer's fault. 

He has his conversation with self destruct, so first of I Told him to make an account (obv when I say it I see them as a normal real customers who will make an account on their real IP, mobile app and stuff not using fake email and shit or doing anything shady with the account, since my service is a bit delicate its regarding travelling and all)  on his own legit name, he didn't he had some name with some vulgar words in the name, 

Since it's a flight company you need a passport and real name on the account, he mentioned that he will change it later when the funds are there and resell it to some guy who is willing to buy, I said I am not sure about the method, People just use to book a flight using the legit name, I reconfirmed from him again if it's okay if I send because I told him that name isn't right, He said go ahead if that works he will buy more. 

and on-air Canada it's not a new issue people usually use points to buy gift cards and stuff and they usually ask you to id and basically air Canada checks a lot of shit like what ip u used to register and what device and all it has to be legit. 

They just block unusual activity accounts especially fake names and random ip sign-ups (https://www.reddit.c...hout_any_clear/  there are many more like this..), and when it comes to transferring points I told him to email them ill give him receipt when they ask for point transfers and all for their fraud department. 

So when he changed the account name and all, they asked him to put an ID (real one) like it's a flight company obviously they need a real id, and he said "ill get a fake id done and send them". I already told him to get me real proof that it was because of the points, instead of his random sign-up or using random vulgar words in the name and all, or using fake id on a flight company and I'll refund him. 

It also cost me money to transfer points and all, So I am just waiting for the proof, It's not my lack of information that I told him to use his real name and real stuff. 

He sent me an audio recording or a female saying " Idk if its because of point or etc.. " and then he told me its because of points. It doesn't make sense, He got his points in the parts one by one, and I asked him every time "should I send more u sure?" 

 

and he was like yes keep sending. 

Well Obviously it can be either one of his fuck ups with the account or it can be my points but we can't just assume its because of my points, because none of my customers faced any issue, he has to get us some proof. 
Or what we can do is Lucas can make an account or get someone to make an account with air Canada and I can transfer some points to his account and he will use it for themselves for a small flight just to make sure it locks or not. 

The part where he said "She said ok very sus fresh account and transferred in many points, this is probably why they locked acc.", he is pretty much lying about it. Get him to get a recording and stuff. I have the recording she didn't say any of it, I'll send it to @Lucas

Yes: I did tell him to use a fresh account with the real name on it with his own real name and ip and etc. if that's what u are saying (but he used some vulgar name like "deez nuts, ligma" etc. in the account, he used fake id with the account which I told him not to use, use the real ID of the real guy. ) and I am not sure if he sent that account to shit ton of people who opened it a shit ton of times on random ips and VPNs because he was reselling the account to whoever buys it or try it. There are a lot of factors and my service doesn't provide a method to use the points either, I just transfer. If the owner is messing up with his account on his own then it's not on me obviously. 

 

Edited by Amaze, 02 May 2023 - 02:01 PM.

[Lucas]

He has his conversation with self destruct, so first of I Told him to make an account (obv when I say it I see them as a normal real customers who will make an account on their real IP, mobile app and stuff not using fake email and shit or doing anything shady with the account, since my service is a bit delicate its regarding travelling and all)  on his own legit name, he didn't he had some name with some vulgar words in the name, 

Since it's a flight company you need a passport and real name on the account, he mentioned that he will change it later when the funds are there and resell it to some guy who is willing to buy, I said I am not sure about the method, People just use to book a flight using the legit name, I reconfirmed from him again if it's okay if I send because I told him that name isn't right, He said go ahead if that works he will buy more. 

and on-air Canada it's not a new issue people usually use points to buy gift cards and stuff and they usually ask you to id and basically air Canada checks a lot of shit like what ip u used to register and what device and all it has to be legit. 

They just block unusual activity accounts especially fake names and random ip sign-ups (https://www.reddit.c...hout_any_clear/  there are many more like this..), and when it comes to transferring points I told him to email them ill give him receipt when they ask for point transfers and all for their fraud department. 

So when he changed the account name and all, they asked him to put an ID (real one) like it's a flight company obviously they need a real id, and he said "ill get a fake id done and send them". I already told him to get me real proof that it was because of the points, instead of his random sign-up or using random vulgar words in the name and all, or using fake id on a flight company and I'll refund him. 

It also cost me money to transfer points and all, So I am just waiting for the proof, It's not my lack of information that I told him to use his real name and real stuff. 

He sent me an audio recording or a female saying " Idk if its because of point or etc.. " and then he told me its because of points. It doesn't make sense, He got his points in the parts one by one, and I asked him every time "should I send more u sure?" 

 

and he was like yes keep sending. 

Well Obviously it can be either one of his fuck ups with the account or it can be my points but we can't just assume its because of my points, because none of my customers faced any issue, he has to get us some proof. 
Or what we can do is Lucas can make an account or get someone to make an account with air Canada and I can transfer some points to his account and he will use it for themselves for a small flight just to make sure it locks or not. 

The part where he said "She said ok very sus fresh account and transferred in many points, this is probably why they locked acc.", he is pretty much lying about it. Get him to get a recording and stuff. I have the recording she didn't say any of it, I'll send it to @Lucas

Yes: I did tell him to use a fresh account with the real name on it with his own real name and ip and etc. if that's what u are saying (but he used some vulgar name like "deez nuts, ligma" etc. in the account, he used fake id with the account which I told him not to use, use the real ID of the real guy. ) and I am not sure if he sent that account to shit ton of people who opened it a shit ton of times on random ips and VPNs because he was reselling the account to whoever buys it or try it. There are a lot of factors and my service doesn't provide a method to use the points either, I just transfer. If the owner is messing up with his account on his own then it's not on me obviously. 

 

 

If you doubt his proof, then get proof yourself. Call them yourself and ask about it? 

[Amaze]

If you doubt his proof, then get proof yourself. Call them yourself and ask about it. 

 

He hasn't given any proof, I Can't call and ask since I am the account owner it's like basically asking about someone else's account. He hasn't given any proof that it's cuz of the points. I have sent u the audio too in the DMS the one he sent me, and before that, I told him not to get points in a fake name account. 

it's simple, he said he wants to get into a new account I said sure

I asked him about the name he said its fine, I said to make sure he said he will change it later I warned him too. He used a fake id on the account. I have refunded people over Hyatt with adequate proof. 

Account getting locked especially of Air Canada can be for a lot of reasons just. And it's his job to make sure what it is because I am not the account owner, it's his account. |

"There is no proof that it's cuz of the points" in the first place. He probably changed the name on the account shit ton of times tryna resell well how would I know, it's like saying "go find his fuck ups or refund". 

Ask him to get an email or audio from the company or something that it's cuz of the transfer I'll gladly refund. It's not about the refund here it's about the adequate proof. I am not sure if u have dealt with air Canada, that's why i said ill transfer points to one of your friends' accounts or something and he can use it and we can see if that locks up or not. 


Video link: https://streamable.com/uddddx

And second thing is he didn't follow my instruction to use his real name and told him to not change the name so it also defeats the purpose of not complying with my thing so that my service is compatible 

they stopped replying to him after he sent the fake ID 
 

Edited by Amaze, 02 May 2023 - 03:53 PM.

[Lucas]

He hasn't given any proof, I Can't call and ask since I am the account owner it's like basically asking about someone else's account. He hasn't given any proof that it's cuz of the points. I have sent u the audio too in the DMS the one he sent me, and before that, I told him not to get points in a fake name account. 

it's simple, he said he wants to get into a new account I said sure

I asked him about the name he said its fine, I said to make sure he said he will change it later I warned him too. He used a fake id on the account. I have refunded people over Hyatt with adequate proof. 

Account getting locked especially of Air Canada can be for a lot of reasons just. And it's his job to make sure what it is because I am not the account owner, it's his account. |

"There is no proof that it's cuz of the points" in the first place. He probably changed the name on the account shit ton of times tryna resell well how would I know, it's like saying "go find his fuck ups or refund". 

Ask him to get an email or audio from the company or something that it's cuz of the transfer I'll gladly refund. It's not about the refund here it's about the adequate proof. I am not sure if u have dealt with air Canada, that's why i said ill transfer points to one of your friends' accounts or something and he can use it and we can see if that locks up or not. 


Video link: https://streamable.com/uddddx

And second thing is he didn't follow my instruction to use his real name and told him to not change the name so it also defeats the purpose of not complying with my thing so that my service is compatible 

they stopped replying to him after he sent the fake ID 
 

Companies NEVER tell you the exact reason for the closure of accounts, because that would give fraudsters the insight on how to avoid closures in future instances. It's impossible to know if the account was closed due to your point transfer or due to name changes. You are asking for evidence that cannot be provided because it needs confirmation from a third party that may or may not give that confirmation. 

If YOU have no evidence that the ban was NOT caused by the point transfer, which is something you claim can be easily obtained, you can provide it. Otherwise, it's simply your word against his. There is no conclusive evidence to confirm without a doubt that the ban was caused by him changing the name or providing an ID that they deemed fraudulent. And they will NEVER tell you the real reason for the account closure. As simple as this. Every company in the world works in the exact same way. They won't give you insight on how to bypass their security. 

If you don't want to get evidence that supports your claim (that he himself, alone, blocked the account) then you can either refund him or replace the points with strict conditions on a new account (conditions =  he has to use his real name, and perform the reservation using his name) 

 

As for the claim that ''this never happened before'' I dont know what you mean, I witnessed accounts being closed before points were used on 1 or 2 transactions I mmed for you, I guess you mean on this specific website and if so, your basis to claim it never happened before is too small (this could be the first time, that means it happened once) you can't just deny something being a possibility just because it never happened to you before that instance. 

[Amaze]

Companies NEVER tell you the exact reason for the closure of accounts, because that would give fraudsters the insight on how to avoid closures in future instances. It's impossible to know if the account was closed due to your point transfer or due to name changes. You are asking for evidence that cannot be provided because it needs confirmation from a third party that may or may not give that confirmation. 

If YOU have no evidence that the ban was NOT caused by the point transfer, which is something you claim can be easily obtained, you can provide it. Otherwise, it's simply your word against his. There is no conclusive evidence to confirm without a doubt that the ban was caused by him changing the name or providing an ID that they deemed fraudulent. And they will NEVER tell you the real reason for the account closure. As simple as this. Every company in the world works in the exact same way. They won't give you insight on how to bypass their security. 

If you don't want to get evidence that supports your claim (that he himself, alone, blocked the account) then you can either refund him or replace the points with strict conditions on a new account (conditions =  he has to use his real name, and perform the reservation using his name) 

 

As for the claim that ''this never happened before'' I dont know what you mean, I witnessed accounts being closed before points were used on 1 or 2 transactions I mmed for you, I guess you mean on this specific website and if so, your basis to claim it never happened before is too small (this could be the first time, that means it happened once) you can't just deny something being a possibility just because it never happened to you before that instance. 

So as you said that they don't reveal anything, he is saying that the account is locked due to points and I am saying the account is locked because of the name change and fake ID. 

and you are saying only I have to prove that it's not because of my point, well then the same goes for him too then he has to prove that it's not cuz of his name change and a fake ID. 

And companies do tell that, as far as you have mm'ed for me, ill like to remind you of the chat with bilun167#6043 on discord where he bought the points from me, and the points were reversed and sent back to where they came from, then I refunded him they did also tell him that they couldn't verify the source when we called. The same happened with another user with Turkish airlines when he wasn't able to book tickets he called and they told him the reason and he kyced another user who wanted to book a flight using the account and they booked his ticket. I can give his discord # too you mmed for him too for my service. 

And you said "exact reason" on the call she didn't give out any reason. So basically you are saying the possibility of everything is possible right, it also possible that he messed with the account and kyc procedure which can also lead to account closure.? since its about possibility. 


I witnessed accounts being closed before points were used on 1 or 2 transactions I mmed for you  (not multiple account just one case)
 
in this part the points were reversed I refilled again and it got reversed again and then I refunded the client. Because it was see-through that it was because of my transfers. 

Edited by Amaze, 02 May 2023 - 05:10 PM.

[Dantheman1217]

I don’t appreciate you posting the video publicly.

A lot of misinformation in this thread so I’ll clarify. I was never told to use my real name nor was I ever told to not do anything with the account. All I asked was if fresh acc was okay and he said yes it’s okay. Then he confirmed the name when he was transferring the points, literally read it out to me and said okay? And I’m like yeah it’s the correct account. Not only did he read the name back to me, he didn’t warn me about anything. I have emails with the person I intended to sell to, the account was frozen before anyone even logged in, if you doubt this you can call and ask when the account was frozen, it was the same day points were added. He’s lying about warning me, I was never told about anything. There was no instruction to use real names. Air Canada let’s you book tickets under other peoples names, I.e separate from account holder name so I assumed regardless of the account holder name I could book flights, or at the worst I could redeem the points for egifts. Regardless of this, I had called in and explained situation, and they let me change the details to match the ID and I sent in ID that matched the account details exactly. I have the screenshots of the chat send to Lucas, he can confirm I was not warned of anything. He claims it’s different logins with IP etc, yet he was the one who had to login multiple times from a different location. No they did not stop replying to me after I sent in fake id, a blatant lie. Air Canada does not do emails, I have never received email correspondence from support ever. It is only phone calls, and I am not recording 15 hours of phone calls. I got that clip because I thought it was pretty evident that the lady was explaining that the account was locked due to points. It’s been almost a month that I’ve been on this wild goose chase, I want either points or a refund.

Lucas, if you wish I have pictures of the entire chat start to finish, I can show you that I was never warned of anything, when I explained my issues he just started ghosting me. It takes 3 days sometimes to get like a short response from him. I asked him many things because it was my first time buying and he never once warned me or told me acc could get locked. In fact I contacted some of his other buyers and they told me their accounts have been locked in the past too.

Edited by Dantheman1217, 02 May 2023 - 05:15 PM.

[Amaze]

I don’t appreciate you posting the video publicly.

A lot of misinformation in this thread so I’ll clarify. I was never told to use my real name nor was I ever told to not do anything with the account. All I asked was if fresh acc was okay and he said yes it’s okay. Then he confirmed the name when he was transferring the points, literally read it out to me and said okay? And I’m like yeah it’s the correct account. Not only did he read the name back to me, he didn’t warn me about anything. I have emails with the person I intended to sell to, the account was frozen before anyone even logged in, if you doubt this you can call and ask when the account was frozen, it was the same day points were added. He’s lying about warning me, I was never told about anything. Air Canada let’s you book tickets under other peoples names, I.e separate from account holder name so I assumed regardless of the account holder name I could book flights, or at the worst I could redeem the points for egifts. Regardless of this, I had called in and explained situation, and they let me change the details to match the ID and I sent in ID that matched the account details exactly. I have the screenshots of the chat send to Lucas, he can confirm I was not warned of anything. He claims it’s different logins with IP etc, yet he was the one who had to login multiple times from a different location. No they did not stop replying to me after I sent in fake id, a blatant lie. Air Canada does not do emails, I have never received email correspondence from support ever. It is only phone calls, and I am not recording 15 hours of phone calls. I got that clip because I thought it was pretty evident that the lady was explaining that the account was locked due to points. It’s been almost a month that I’ve been on this wild goose chase, I want either points or a refund.

Lucas, if you wish I have pictures of the entire chat start to finish, I can show you that I was never warned of anything, when I explained my issues he just started ghosting me. It takes 3 days sometimes to get like a short response from him. I asked him many things because it was my first time buying and he never once warned me or told me acc could get locked. In fact I contacted some of his other buyers and they told me their accounts have been locked in the past too.

why can't I see the conversations then? make a group since on telegram it's easy to delete the chats and make it look like something else. And yeah I did warn you about using that vulgar name with some random words in them, and u said u were asked for KYC and you sent them and you said they haven't responded to you after that. and no I never logged in with multiple locations in your account first of all, make a group chat on tele with Lucas and let me see what u sent him as chats, since I am not even sure if it's my chat at this point or not. 

yeah obv I ghost you when you don't have anything concrete. Yeah, send the chats to me too along with Lucas. I told him already just get the points reversed from where they came from ill refund too, if that's the case. 

Edited by Amaze, 02 May 2023 - 05:16 PM.

[Dantheman1217]

why can't I see the conversations then? make a group since on telegram its easy to delete the chats and make it look like something else. And yeah I did warn you about using that vulgar name with some random words in them, and u said u were asked for KYC and you sent them and you said they haven't responded to you after that. and no I never logged in with multiple locations in your account first of all, make a group chat on tele with lucas and let me see what u sent him as chats, since i am not even sure if its my chat at this point or not. 

yeah obv i ghost you when you don't have anything concrete. Yeah send the chats to mee too along with lucas

Well I guess good thing I screen recorded it while clicking on your profile.