When is it safe/ not safe to use my address or info for SE ???

[simudrone]

Helloo everybody, I could really use some help and hopefully this can help others

 

I need some basic info about successfully SEing and refunding  

Like in what circumstance do i need to use fake info?

If I do 1 SE or refund per company with say my own address and payment info am I relatively safe?

What kind of things have you used your own address\info for?


Also i need to find templates and learn to fake receipts and pop if anyone has some tips or recources to get started with that it would be much appreciated

Thank you nulled

 

[pickLer]

https://darkproof.net/

[somethingUnique]

i would also like to know this about using your own address etc

 

and thank you pickLer for that url

[simudrone]

Sweet, ill def be using darkproof.  Thank you

About addresses, is it ever safe to use my own address (and perhaps fake name etc)

What are the risks if any of doing that once per companie but lots of diff companies for example??

[xElias]

Helloo everybody, I could really use some help and hopefully this can help others

 

I need some basic info about successfully SEing and refunding  

Like in what circumstance do i need to use fake info?

If I do 1 SE or refund per company with say my own address and payment info am I relatively safe?

What kind of things have you used your own address\info for?


Also i need to find templates and learn to fake receipts and pop if anyone has some tips or recources to get started with that it would be much appreciated

Thank you nulled

 

You have to differentiate between SEing and refunding:

 

Refunding:

If you are refunding with a personal account, they will have your contact information anyway, from the credit card/PayPal you are using to do the refund, so you can use your own address, provided you don't fuck up the refund. You can use fake information when you have a stealth account, prepaid cards, burner phone and a drop address you can use. So you would need some time to build up a fake account on the website you are going to refund or build up a stealth PayPal account, by using fake information and doing legit transactions.

 

SEing:

For SEing, i would start out with companies you know aren't going to bill you. Like Logitech, Kingston, HyperX.

If you know they won't bill you, you can use your real information without a problem. I would avoid doing them multiple times in a short period of time, otherwise it gets suspicious. You could however misspell you address and name a bit, so it will still go to your house and they will not have a note in their system for the same address.

 

Otherwise, companies like Dell, Lenovo and other big companies will bill you and therefore you will need a drop address. They offer different kinds of replacements:

 

• Companies can offer you a normal replacement, where you have to send your faulty product first and after they received it, they will send out a new one. You will have to box them (send them empty package) and thats why you need a drop address. Now there is three ways this could go: 1. They send out the package right after receiving yours, without checking its contents. 2. They check the package for its contents and realize its empty. Then you will have to convince them it got stolen in transit. They can only send you a bill if they realize your package was empty after they already sent out a replacement. There are tutorials here on nulled on how to prep a package for boxing. 3. They check the package and refuse to send out a replacement. You will send need good SEing skills and make them believe you really sent them the package with its contents. They might blame the carrier.
• Companies can offer you an advanced replacement, where you will get an item sent before you have to send back the faulty one (if you have to send it back at all). You will need a drop for this, as you can just collect the item and then disappear. Some companies require credit card information as security when doing advanced replacements. They will charge you like a $1 fee on your card so they can see it's real. You will need a VCC or a prepaid card for this to work. (EVGA, Nvidia etc are known to do this)
• Companies can offer you a live exchange, where you have to live exchange the product. A carrier will come to your desired address and bring you the new item and you give him the faulty one. You could give him a box filled with weight if it is a heavy product. A drop address is still needed. 

I personally only did 'safe' companies yet 

 

I hope this helps

[Juriss]

if u go on this site you can type in a post code and it will show u the info for the houses that people have a mortgage on and it will show stuff such as:

First name, Last name

DoB

Address

 

enjoy  

[eMarron]

You have to differentiate between SEing and refunding:

 

Refunding:

If you are refunding with a personal account, they will have your contact information anyway, from the credit card/PayPal you are using to do the refund, so you can use your own address, provided you don't fuck up the refund. You can use fake information when you have a stealth account, prepaid cards, burner phone and a drop address you can use. So you would need some time to build up a fake account on the website you are going to refund or build up a stealth PayPal account, by using fake information and doing legit transactions.

 

SEing:

For SEing, i would start out with companies you know aren't going to bill you. Like Logitech, Kingston, HyperX.

If you know they won't bill you, you can use your real information without a problem. I would avoid doing them multiple times in a short period of time, otherwise it gets suspicious. You could however misspell you address and name a bit, so it will still go to your house and they will not have a note in their system for the same address.

 

Otherwise, companies like Dell, Lenovo and other big companies will bill you and therefore you will need a drop address. They offer different kinds of replacements:

 

• Companies can offer you a normal replacement, where you have to send your faulty product first and after they received it, they will send out a new one. You will have to box them (send them empty package) and thats why you need a drop address. Now there is three ways this could go: 1. They send out the package right after receiving yours, without checking its contents. 2. They check the package for its contents and realize its empty. Then you will have to convince them it got stolen in transit. They can only send you a bill if they realize your package was empty after they already sent out a replacement. There are tutorials here on nulled on how to prep a package for boxing. 3. They check the package and refuse to send out a replacement. You will send need good SEing skills and make them believe you really sent them the package with its contents. They might blame the carrier.
• Companies can offer you an advanced replacement, where you will get an item sent before you have to send back the faulty one (if you have to send it back at all). You will need a drop for this, as you can just collect the item and then disappear. Some companies require credit card information as security when doing advanced replacements. They will charge you like a $1 fee on your card so they can see it's real. You will need a VCC or a prepaid card for this to work. (EVGA, Nvidia etc are known to do this)
• Companies can offer you a live exchange, where you have to live exchange the product. A carrier will come to your desired address and bring you the new item and you give him the faulty one. You could give him a box filled with weight if it is a heavy product. A drop address is still needed. 

I personally only did 'safe' companies yet 

 

I hope this helps

Any experiences about Drop adresses or ways to reship so its not easy to spot your main adress at all?

 

Alwyys struggling at that point.

 

Still great summary of general help, especially for a simple post. Got My green man

[xElias]

Any experiences about Drop adresses or ways to reship so its not easy to spot your main adress at all?

 

Alwyys struggling at that point.

 

Still great summary of general help, especially for a simple post. Got My green man

For Drop Addresses:

Drop addresses are useful since the company has no way of sending you a bill for the items you received. If you managed to stay anonymous online, you will need to stay anonymous offline too. There are multiple ways this can be done, some are easy, some are not:

 

Using carriers to your advantage:

• Some carriers call you a few minutes before your package is about to arrive. If you use an address that is located on your street but does not exist or you use a neighbors address, you can tell him you will be outside shortly and then you can wait for him at the street corner. This way, neither the company, nor the carrier will have your address. This method only works if you know the carrier will call you. Some countries do not have this privilege (such as my beautiful country of Germany), but there is a fix for this:

 

• Most carriers, such as UPS or DHL will have drop off points in the area and when the carrier cant find the address (or no neighbor is there to take the package) they will drop the package off at a drop off point. You will then be able to collect the item from there. But be careful, you might have to show your ID card and your tracking number for the item, but no worries, they will not scan your ID. Cameras in the drop off point might be a problem tho. 

 

• If you know the company does not bill, or you have a blacklisted address, you might be able to misspell the address and the item will still go to your house, since the carrier uses common sense to determine where it should go. If it doesn't go to your house then it will end up at a drop off point.

(Example 1: Teststreet 224 = Teststreet 2244, provided there is no 2244 on your street)

(Example 2: Teststreet 224 = Testst. 224) 

(Example 3: John Smith, Teststreet 224 = Brian Colins, Teststreet 224, say you are in-laws)

 

Using dead addresses:

• Some countries also have the privilege of requiring no signature for receiving a package. You can just use a dead address, like a house for sale at the moment. If the carrier allows you to specify a safe location, visit the house before the SE and then look for a safe place. In the tracking options, specify a safe place (e.g. "place the package behind the plant next to the garage door" or "leave it behind the gate in the garden") 

 

• The house for sale method also works for countries that require a signature, although this is a lenghty process. You will have to camp at the house and wait for the carrier. If the carrier prvides a time window for his arrival, then you will not have to wait a long time for the package. But if the carrier arrives at your desired location, you can just come out from the back (or the garden) and collect the package. Make sure the address does not look like a house in detroit , but one that is lived in. If the carrier asks why you come out from the back, either say you were in the process of leaving, or say your pet has to stay inside because it hs to go to the vet soon, he will not ask any further questions. If the house is an apartment building, use a remote doorbell (u can buy them cheaply off of amazon, like 20 bucks each) that sends messages to your phone when someone rings. You can then quickly head to the drop location and get the item

 

Using reships:

There are reship companies and there are platforms for personal reshippers:

 

Using reship companies:

• Reship companies might sound like a good idea at first, but not if you have to verify with your ID or use a real address where the items get sent to.
• Reship companies offer you a personal company address, like (John Smith, Number 12345, Reship LLC, 123 Test Street, 99999 Fake City), therefore they might be a  blacklisted address since the company you are goind to SE can clearly see that you are using a reship.
• Reship companies might require a proof of purchase for the item
• Reship companies might not forward goods with batteries 
• Reship companies might forward bills you receive!

Using personal reshippers:

• Personal reshippers are people that accept your package and then forward it to you for a fee. Their addresses are usually not blacklisted! You might get away with them sending it to a fake address so you can collect it from a drop off point. So therefore, if the reshipper guy gets a bill, he will either ignore it or send it to the fake address. No risk at all.
• If you live in the city where the reshipper is located, you can go and collect the item in person, this avoids any need for an address! 

Using AirBnB's 

 

• You can also rent AirBnBs and accept the items when you are there. This might not work if the carrier fails to deliver at the exact date you are there. 
• You can ask the host to accept packages for you before you actually arrive there. You can say that you want to buy some gifts but you are currently in another country and cant buy them there because of tax/vat reasons. The host will probably accept, since he wants good reviews anyway. You can then collect the packages there. 

 

I hope this helps 

These are just some of the working methods i know of. I'm sure you will find what fits you most  

I might make this into a guide and post this in a thread of it's own.

 

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[drivereasy]

@xElias For advance replacement, is a drop necessary? Also I have a question about 'Empty Box.' Do you just send an actual empty box, any box, with the given label?

 

I'm just truly concerned about Seagate as they offered me an AR and It's my first time doing so.

Edited by drivereasy, 28 March 2020 - 05:45 PM.

[xElias]

@xElias For advance replacement, is a drop necessary? Also I have a question about 'Empty Box.' Do you just send an actual empty box, any box, with the given label?

 

I'm just truly concerned about Seagate as they offered me an AR and It's my first time doing so.

Advanced replacement means a company sends out the replacement before they receive your faulty product. Depending on the company, they might tell you to keep the faulty item.

In some cases they need a credit card as a security and will charge it with a security fee, in case they dont receive the product. I don't know if Seagate does that.

I would advise you to send it to a drop address since they might not accept your empty box, if they ask for your product back.

 

When sending an empty box, you want it to look like it has been tampered with in transit. Of course you use a box that is appropriate for the size of the products. Look up the measurements on the companies website. Use 2 different kinds of tape to tape the box shut. Close the box with one, then cut it open and close it again with another one. You can put some bubblewrap or some packaging material inside. Make sure to not place the label on the 2nd tape. If you can drop the package off without human contact, you can damage the box a bit so it looks more legit. Since you usually get a prepaid and preweighed label for sending it back, you can drop it off empty. But again, the less human contact the better. Use a postbox or some locker to drop it off. 

 

Good Luck